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January 12, 2009

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this was great. not enough voices willing to paint the whole picture.

Let's be honest and call it objective malarkey. A good piece, Martin. :D

You're right in highlighting The Raw Story's omission of the recent decline in terrorism but you're missing the point by arguing that the West is winning since the article never claimed otherwise. The Raw Story piece solely focused on the Bush administration's characterization of their anti-terror efforts as a "success."

While success is a fairly subjective measure, Raw Story convincingly refutes the notion by pointing out 1)the Iraq War greatly and needlessly increased the number of terror attacks and 2)the administration failed to reduce the frequency of terror attacks to pre-9/11 levels.

If you wanted to take issue with the story you should have argued that Bush's efforts were successful but that's hard to argue given 100,000 avoidable deaths in Iraq and no net decrease in terrorism since 9/11.

Hi ContraRadical - thanks for the thought-provoking comment. I can't agree with your assessment that Raw Story never claimed the West is losing its War on Terror though.

As you yourself noted, the article rejects any notion that America's anti-terror strategy has been a "success". How can you argue that Mr Brewer didn't suggest the West is losing its struggle, when he explicitly stated that its central strategy - the War on Terror - has been an unmitigated disaster?

I'm more sympathetic to your argument that invading Iraq greatly increased terrorism incidents around the world; however, I'm not sure it was as "needlessly" as you claim. In 2005/6 Iraq was awash with foreign insurgents, and it's fair to presume that if they weren't waging Jihad in Baghdad they would happily have been doing it in their home countries, or Pakistan, or perhaps even the West.

Don't get me wrong: I agree that the fumbled handling of the Iraq war led to unnecessary carnage. I'm simply saying that a surge in global terrorism was inevitable from 2002 onwards. So Raw Story is wrong to paint it as an unequivocal failure.

And as far as bringing terror attacks down to pre-9/11 levels, that simply isn't realistic yet. 9/11 completely changed the world and it gave the West (as well as India, Russia etc) compelling reasons to bring the fight to the terrorists. Which translates to a short-term spike in terrorist incidents.

Let me use an analogy. If you had heart surgery and the surgeon did a great job clearing your arteries, or fixing a congenital defect, or whatever, but she also mistakenly cut off your foot, would you characterize the operation as a success?

Of course not because even when objectives are achieved, the efficacy of achievement is still important. That's Bush's policy failure; he created an unnecessary war zone and unnecessary terrorists.

Granted, as you point out, some foreign fighters would have ended up in Afghanistan if not Iraq. However there wouldn't the enormous number of terrorists the Iraq war specifically created (and continues to create), and more importantly, they wouldn't be fighting in densely populated urban areas causing huge numbers of civilian victims of terrorism.

It's a classic Pyrrhic victory, not a success.

Nice analogy. I can certainly agree that the Iraq war created a lot of terrorists on top of those that already existed. It radicalised large numbers of Muslims; dramatically boosted Al Qaeda's propaganda efforts; and increased the terror threat abroad (notably in Turkey, Egypt and Jordan - all of which suffered attacks planned by Iraqi militants).

I guess the 'winning' / 'success' dispute just boils down to semantics. My fundamental point was that Mr Bremer's article acknowledged zero good news on the terrorism front, glossing over such information where it was available. Given the popularity of his article, I felt this warranted a rebuttal that painted a fuller picture of the global terror threat.

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